"Liam - OxyUK" - Our Latest TV Star [merged]

It seems WHT member Liam - OxyUK is going to be our latest TV star. He's one of the contestants on this years UK Big Brother. This years show has 12 young 'stars' in the house, while being controlled by UK celebs acting as Big Brother. It seems the fact that Liam started his Web hosting business at the age of eight (now 19) was enough to get him a place on the show and therefore in the run for the £50,000 prize. Do us all a favour and get the word out about Web hosting. Maybe by the end of the show everybody in the UK will finally know what we do and sell for a living. Congratulations Liam! FYI (if you read this thread before you go in the house, or after you get out), the producers also contacted me to see if I wanted to be on the show as their resident young entrepreneur. You started your business while you were six years younger than me, so I guess your story was better. You bugger! Meet the Contestants - http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/7169525.stm (Liam is in photo #7)

If you go to that IP directly in your browser though, you appear to end up on "Homestead Technologies" - so by the look of it, he's hosting his main site (or all his sites?) with another provider anyway!

A credit search on "OxyUK Technologies Limited" reveals the company was established in January 07, and has a registered office at a semi-detatched house in Liverpool....

This is not what BigBrother needed after last years "Scandals" when the press pick this up Channel4/E4 will be in trouble again. One of the headlines will be "BigBluff" mark my words. I would not be surprised if this is the last time BigBrother hits our screens, its on its last legs and surrounded by controversy. TBH: How could they believe this.... 12 employees at 200K turnover?

dibs ??? owm

I'm from Lancashire (Wigan), though I tend to lock my accent up and never let it out

I'd rather die than go on that programme. Every time I watch Big Brother, every single person really angers me. Remember one called "Kinga" or something? *shudders*

i can see her point when she says he doesnt look like an entrepreneur....the only 1 thing I dont understand is...I dont think she realises the qualitys in running a web hosting business.... its hard to have "relationships" with your clients and im in my early 20's...its proberly impossible for a 19yr old or is that "8.5 year" old quoting that women. on a serious note... its hard to have relationships with clients when you run a web hsoting business thats over the internet or on a computer screen....its proberly easier if your a web host that targets a local village or small market. harder when you have a more brouder target audience. think thats what liam was getting at when he was in the diary room after watching that VT...poor kid was getting withdrawal symptoms for not being on a PC... happens to me too when im not in the same room as a pc for more than a few hours let alone on one. she made me laugh when she was commenting on his looks and the way he dresses...she should have a look in a mirror, I think liam is pretty good looking for a 19yr old...wish i looked as good when I was 19.

Hehehe maybe Liam can't spell his own name ?

(Stupid character limit.)

What bugs me the most about it is that he has robbed our good buddy Jamie from the spot in BB. Otherwise, I could care less. Vito

isnt he banned? somone mentioned a while ago... a rough guess think its on page 5. oh wait no somone revealed on page 7 or so I think he had two usernames on here. but yes it will be interesting when he gets a chance to read this...I randomly switched over the other day and thought wtf hes still in the house... I wrekcon bb are keeping him in on purpose lol.

Should be repeated tomorrow (they usually are...?). Will try and grab a copy then, this could be priceless

I asked this on DigitalSpy... How do you know he is using a pirated version of SupportSuite, just because he is using a version that matches a pirated version doesn't make his install pirated. http://support.oxyuk.com/key.php ...also exists.

ROFL: http://www.talkfreelance.com/showthread.php?t=49413

It looks like I'm not the only crazy person about, from that thread: Johnson5 posted - Anyway, Liam is having the last laugh. His plans to become a business guru will soon come to fruition. He will soon be sipping pina coladas on his own private island, surrounded by beautiful girls and boys ready to pleasure him whenever he feels the desire. ---------------------------- It's not too late to send in the medics

Not if you claim to own a successful mail order business it's not!

Yes we know...see ya in around 3 minutes

This should be interesting...

It's too bad that the IP in question doesn't belong to one of OxyUK's servers, but rather homestead . Yes, that's right, they're hosting their website with homstead yet they supposedly host 2 million websites for their customers. # host oxyuktechnologies.com oxyuktechnologies.com has address 209.157.71.50 oxyuktechnologies.com mail is handled by 10 inbound.homesteadmail.com. # host 209.157.71.50 50.71.157.209.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer www.homestead.com . 50.71.157.209.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer kartoffelsoft.com.

I agree 100% with Aussie Bob on this.

lmfao... http://www.thisischeshire.co.uk/disp...ig_brother.php Posted by: Huh? on 1:01am Fri 4 Jan 08 "If he was so minted how come he worked at Pizza Hut, Runcorn and why didn't he tell anyone at his local drama group about any of this? Also, what's this really interesting story about a glow stick? http://www.rmwebdesign.co.uk/news0019.htm Now his company, OxyUK, has expanded with 12 directors, more than 1,500 subscribers and 1.5m worldwide clients who access a free website, paid for by advertising. And, in the spirit of the hi-tech industry he is in, Liam, who goes to Wade Deacon High School in Widnes, still uses his bedroom where he talks to his executive team, aged between 15 and 26, via virtual computer-generated board meetings. owm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dibs

You're lucky he wasn't a scouser

wow. thats amazing. Guess he deserves the shot to win that big money

for the sake of fair play an sheer honesty...this thread will never be allowed to die, because I am monitering it and will bump it each time. liam the 19 year old fool will burn in hell before i stop posting. plus India got beat at cricket fairly so stop griping Biju owm

Nope, I think he can do it all by himself.. I mean, if he was able to imagine his customers there, I'm sure he can imagine the tickets away

All about Widnes has More info on Liar (you all know I can't spell) here: Liam Young – Celebrity Big Fibber? http://aboutwidnes.blogspot.com/2008...ig-fibber.html with links to: http://liamyoung-oxyuk-truth.com/ and: http://www.yibberyabber.co.uk/intere...ck-is-he-fake/ It's all slowly getting out into the 'real world' What about Franchising his success ?

Arguably he is more than just "a kid", he is in the public eye, on our TV sets every single day and night and discussed in magazines and (tabloid) newspapers. Therefore, all the reason for people to discuss him and Big Brother!

I know what he will think, same as usual, here it is: . . . . . . . . . Wheres my web site: www.oxyonline.com

Just wondering... did anyone else ever watch his 'intro video' http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9nq_ZFTUii4 Find it rather amusing Not sure how he can wrangle out of what he said there

hmm...well how many other hosting companies do you know who run live support are running a version that's so far out of date? as well as being an unsecure version. newer version is v3.11.01 owm

HaHa! Nowhere for him to hide anymore.

boys ready to pleasure him??? wtf

From what I can see, Liam's company is a reseller of web space, of which there are many out there, nice work if you can get it, and there is no reason why a reseller should not be able to offer technical support. I do think for a person or company to end up with no control of their domain name would require a degree of stupidity their part. One would hope any legitimate company would check ownership of their domain name and if they were serious about business, they would make sure they have a decent web hosting package and legal ownership of their domain name. I pay more in a month than what most people probably pay in a year for their web hosting, but that's because if my web site were to be down for a few days, it would cost me thousands of pounds in lost sales, so I cannot afford to have cheap web hosting. At the end of the day, you get what you pay for!

Yes they do have different versions of films for US and UK because the certification rules are not the same over here. No Brian, I don't sell shoes, we sell herbs, seeds, and those kind of thing among many others, but thanks for your kind words One of my friends owns the company that distributes those Croc shoes in the UK and he seems to be doing all right; they're supposed to be very comfortable, not my cup of tea though. IH-Rameen- yes you are ultimately right, I'll shut up!

Eight?! Crikey.

http://www.oxyuktechnologies.com/dom...ion/index.html I didn't realise you could run out of domains to sell?

Yea, I found it odd that he is banned but have another account that is not only active, but he is also a premium member.

This kid is going to get totally pwned by the internet community. You can't hide anything online. Won't be long before the media picks up on a fraud too, and nails him to the wall. It will be well deserved too. I've had a gutful of these kiddy hosts with their lying and deceit.

owm

You really think they have been ? The inclusion of such a blatant fraudster has probably doubled the buzz and viewers of BB ... the digital spy thread has already hit 30 pages ...

If he wins I'm gonna join his company incase he decides to give free stuff out

lololololololol...... January 6, 2008 at 12:43 am Anon. I know Liam personally, so here’s some info for you Liam is gay, I went on a date with him last summer. He spent most of the night talking about his companies and saying he did all the promotions for Oceans 13. Believable? Nope. He’s got that little personality I actually forgot he was there in the cinema, despite him constantly resting that oversized head of his on my shoulder. He also remarked that he “likes to watch people live.. walking around the house doing every-day things… not in a wierd pervy way”. Watch him in the house, permanently posing, sucking up to everyone he can. I found it fascinating how he claims to be this child genius whilst he persisted in making spelling mistake after spelling mistake on his flip-chart during the “talent show”. He should not be in the house, he’s boring, lacking in talent and has clearly lied about ALOT. Get him out at the first opportunity PLEASE so we can laugh at him as he carries his wrecking ball-sized head, messing with his hair when it gets called crooked January 6, 2008 at 2:41 am Anom I’d also like to add that he may have a £200,000 turn over, but he still feels the need, to keep grounded and he works in the 02 shop selling mobile phones…some business! January 6, 2008 at 5:30 am smart *** i went to school with this guy… as i notice a few familiar names on the site :p i dont ever recall him being this big busines minded kid… i just remember him being rather odd… January 6, 2008 at 6:40 am Jabah I even wonder if he is actually 19. He does look a bit young for his age dont you think. I think you need ID to get into Big Brother (*cough*PHOTOSHOP*cough*). January 6, 2008 at 11:52 am Bert To all the people that know him … can you please elaborate on the glow stick incident. Thanks. Do you think he would be more successful working for a glow stick company working on marketing strategies? Thanks again guys. January 6, 2008 at 12:47 pm Deacon I also know Liam and have done for quite some time, i went to the same school as him - Wade Deacon High School, which is in Widnes where he also lives, NOT Liverpool. Liam has always been a wannabe, attention seeker. He told various (insane) lies throughout High School, such as how he already had 1million in his bank account waiting for him once he left school, yet he never had any money the rest of the time when out and about, hence why he had to work in pizza hut or get his mother to pay for things for him. His business is a complete hoax and id be suprised if he made any money from it what so ever, its just a crappy template that is linked to other crappy templates that he has also made, nothing more. I remember when there was an article on him in our local paper talking about his so called business, the greatest thing about the article was the fact that they where going on about him being so intelligent, yet at the time he was failing in high school, who would of thought a self proclaimed ‘child prodigy’ would be failing his G.C.S.E’s - go figure. He used to always try and ‘test’ people back in school, usually to try and stir up trouble or just to talk about them. He would ‘act’ like a totally different person with each person he spoke to, trying to dig out information so he could use it as gossip, or claim he had some sort of superior knowledge over everyone else. He would then claim that he “knew things” about a particular person but never actually say what it was. Not very nice traits to have if you ask me. Since he entered the BB house i have spoken to alot of my friends about this fraud and so far there has been only 1 of them who has defended him even slightly. The rest have been pretty much digusted by the lies that he is telling. Perosnally, i thought he was ‘OK’ before BB, i dont like BSers, but he was always alrite with me. But now, i have lost any form of respect i had for him. He is doing nothing but making himself look like an absolute fool, he will be exposed, no doubt about it and it is his own fault entirely. ----------------------------- http://www.n3k4.com/general/liam-you...sting-company/ and here on WHT.... http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=542212 lmao [For Hire] Affordable Level 1 + 2 Technical Support Agent -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Very Affordable Level 1 + 2 Technical Support Agent I'm looking for a part-time position to work with a cPanel web hosting company to offer Level 1 + 2 Technical Support, I'm also happy to assist with Level 3 queries. I'm very affordable, and will offer a quality service for just $2/ticket - this is perfect for smaller companies and good for larger companies who need an extra tech... payment must via paypal and be either weekly, bi-weekly or monthly... and I won't accept commission positions. To offer you a personal guarantee - I'll give your first 2 tickets free of charge so you can measure the quality and speed of response at no cost to yourself. If you are interested please contact me via PM. ( or stuff a glow stick up my bottom ?) Thanks for your time, Kind Regards, Liam Young owm

How very interesting, I've been finding multiple sources that Liam Young, one of the contestants in the latest Big Brother UK has been fibbing about his hosting entrepreneurial skills. http://www.n3k4.com/general/liam-you...sting-company/ This is circulating quite fast round the web, seems it's a matter of time before the mainstream media pick up on it.

a stick of TNT would have been a much better offering owm

So is Paris Hilton Anywhom, /me disappears off into discussions that matter.

Do you think he will shutdown oxyUK after this? If he doesn't i wonder how many people will just signup to see what its like

I'm a senile fool - - but I'm also a 'Happy Bunny' !

...yer just realised it is quite out of date. Oh well, we can add piracy to his list of "talents".

Looks like Liam is online again. Wonder what will happen if he searches Liam Young in Google, he won't be happy.

He's BiFocal !

I have 1 serious comment to make re 'newbie totnes' Don't LIE in business This is what Liam has done wrong, this is not acceptable in any business [I'm sure you would not accept it in your 'mail order' business]. Almost equaly annoying, the show producers failed to do the simplist most basic background checks. 1 Local Newspaper even claimed he had 12 Directors in his company. Prior to going Ltd., he was breaking the law by fraudulantly ref. to his business as 'Limited', that is a criminal ooffence in the UK, as I'm sure you are aware. If totnes has not realised, this forum is run by our US friends, who have a diff. english to us Brits., especialy re. 'curse words' - like w*nk, then he is quite a young 35 year old. Finaly, if Liam was my child, I'd send him to a boot camp for compulsive liars, or get the medics to check him out, I would be very very concerned about his behaviour. And yes as an industry we do not like BSers, [not actualy that keen on mail order either, come to think of it]. But we openly endorse that every one is entitled to ther own opion(s), wever or not we agree with them. Because 99% of the WHT community are 'nice guys'.

yeah, but this is more gratifying at the moment Wonder what hes up to now.

you cant honestly beleive their gunna air the word "web hosting talk"..... they might however if WHT paid them to allow it. their sense it out with some audio of birds or a plane... i like it when BB is on lets me catch up on the sounds of nature cause their forever blocking audio out. grrr... im gunna host a show when i win the lottery called BBRL big broghter real life and let it all air out sod it. if people have a problem with it why watch it. god dam broadcasting rules and regs.

One thing I don't don't understand.. He says £200k revenue (not profit).. But for his sake, lets assume £200k profit per year. He has 12 staff members. £200k / 12 = £16.6k per year. That's a damn low salary.. Now consider taxes + costs.. It means each employee would be getting around £10k by my guess. You would get more by working in McDonalds perhaps?

Yep, heres the company appointments report - attached. As I said, looking forward to those first set of filed public accounts - should make for an interesting read. ...anyway, sorry for bashing - I just can't stand these people in the industry; but I guess we have to live with it.

I refuse to watch BB, but am worried that this BSer will be seen as representative of UK web hosts in general.

Yea, that means, Bring on the Assassins Creed.. I got dibs on it haha

Duck, the mouth of the BSer is open:

He's allready handing out Free BS - -

Very interesting, indeed. Where are the quotes from? This link doesn't work for me: ww.n3k4.com/general/liam-young-from-big-brother-and-his-fake-web-hosting-company/

http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=660543 Vito

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...d.php?t=727890 lol..it would appear Liam has been caught messing the sheets live on Big Brother owm

Honestly though... do you think we'd have a long thread like this discussing Jamie? (no offence Jamie!) BB is all about entertainment. Whatever way you (or C4/Endemol etc...) look at it, Liam has caused a stirr. I'm not sure Jaime's history of the Scouts and running a good business would result in the same

He'll think he's a hero.

OWM is going after Liam's eviction, so this coming Sunday. But yes, please tell us how it goes.

most likely if that licence key was checked...it would be found that it isn't registered to him. after all the fake stories and lies he's made up...it is reasonably safe to assume an to keep all the rotten eggs in 1 basket mate. funny thing also.....do a seach on google for that key.....0E364CF4A1A53AA0AFE4627CBC86D145 and I wouldn't have expected to see so many results (6 pages) sharing the same jumble of letters and number. I would have though it would be unique. http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...e+Search&meta= owm

Is that actually him? I expect their are quite a few Liams in Liverpool

na but he wants boys and girls? WTH happened to women and men? He turned into Michael jackson.

Many of us here provide hosting to businesses, we go into panic mode should a 'site' go down for an hour or two. A full day & the sh*t would realy hit the fan.

I'm hoping 'he' is firstly re-reading the replies to 'his' posts, then actualy bothering to read this thread In Full. But I sure hope he is not smoking those 'herbs' he sells wheres biju ? he knows the truth on everything !

I wasnt planing on watching BB but I think I will definitly watch a couple of shows now.

hmm the plot thickens... i went to 209.157.71.50 ....then looked through their "Design Gallery" http://209.157.71.50/~gallery/templa...02A/index.html a little manipulation with that plate and bingo http://oxyuktechnologies.com/ oh dear....he'll get toasted on BB how long does big brother last = about 3 weeks? because on his site it says....Thanks for your interest in our domain registration services, due to high demand over the christmas period we are not currently accepting new orders. During January we are expanding our network and will relaunch this service on 01/02/08....is he also a one man team and has to shut because he's on big brother lmfao owm

Here's his lies repeated on the BB website -

it had to be uk big brother...why not USA or Australia...(I can see Bob standing outside the aussie house right now with the sandwich boards on protesting) if it was in Oz and yeah@ Brian....it'll make people this twice about ordering hosting in case the guy at the other end has indeed a glow stick protruding from his butt owm

lmao... http://liamyoung.info/wall/ owm

I have a theory the BB producers have told him to lie about his so called success. It's the only theory that makes sense, as the BB producers couldn't be that stupid to not see through this kid's lies and deception? It's gotta be a setup for ratings.

Id like to introduce you to my new company Its called HydrUK We have a total of 84 directors, and about 200 people on the board of directors. We currently have a turnover of around £100~, and out of that profit is around £20/year. We pay our staff in free food stamps which we get from our local govt. Did I mention, I started this business when I was 5 and hired our first employee when I was 3 !! ** Please can I be on Big Brother?? ** Supposed to be impossible

Heh, Much More Scarry Without Them ! [now try to sleep - - ]

Yeah its been circulating around here in another thread for quite a while as well!

liam better win.

Agreed. Jamie is squeaky clean and controversy free. Still, TV ratings notwithstanding, I would accept that with no problem, knowing Jamie had received his (well deserved) 15 minutes of fame. Vito

yep he'll love his new found e-fame. He will easily treble his number of CYBER sexual partners from 60

His interview wasnt as awkward as i thought it may be. funny when he watched himself under the covers "shaking hands with the one eyed milkman" how embarassing im watching BB now, all the housemates went into the house non smokers now 3 of them are outside smoking cigs, seriously how idiotic are these people

I'll be interested to see his next public appearance to see how he explains himself, surely with 12 staff and 2 million websites he should be back to work already His "Liam - OxyUK" user still shows as not being active since last December.

That is definitely him

Don't you mean has MJ turned into him Paul

hmm....seems totnes joined up today or thereabouts and for the many 100's of 1000's of posts in wht,you stumble into this one...coincedence or pre-meditated? 4 posts and they're all in this one. happy wanking totnes. OWM

nah, I think I'll leave this thread to you guys ..... I don't think I would want to read it twice; and don't you know that smoking is bad for your health?

Somebody woke up on the wrong side of bed this morning. Nope, he might not say "Web Hosting Talk", but Liam may tell his housemates about the exciting world of a Web host. All that sitting at the desk. All the suspending and fraud detecting. The housemates will be hanging on his every word!

I found a link to cpanel.. http://www.oxyuktechnologies.com/cpanel/ Which then leads to another domain http://www.oxyonline.com/ I assume this is the server with his clients...

Looks like other forums have threads poping up with the same questions: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...d.php?t=722539

Hell yeah. The Aussie BB house was on the Gold Coast, and that's just over an hour from me, so I would have made a visit. Some signs might have been appropriate too.

Any word on the press reporting on any of this ? I am going to actually watch a bit now, I can't believe endemol have been fooled so easily, surely they would talk to some friends of his or check his companies accounts and companies house ? *Subscribed

I agree with what your saying but I think if BB were to do it on purpose they wouldn't pick a wannabe web host and might go for something a bit more mainstream. Either way he could come out of it okay if it was a genuine misunderstanding on his part. But I highly doubt that.

So he's a blagger. But the biggest question is how did Endemol not see him for what he is.

What kind of self-respecting entrepreneur would go on the apprentice anyway? Surely, as an entrepreneur you make the success yourself and not piggybacking off crappy TV programs? I saw a few of the episodes and it made me cringe. I don't think they could have picked more clueless people.

Well it is quite sad to read this. I think those TV guys should at least do some verifications before they made a fool of themselves. It is also an injustice to those real young entrepreneurs who worked their company towards success.

This kids, is why you don't start a internet "business" when you're "supposedly" eight years old. Screws you up in your teen age years

The guy is representing 'our industry' and doing a bloody awful job of it, we need to discuss it. For some of us he's also representing our gender & our country, for others he's just representing small businesses. I do not want the public to think All UK, male, small hosting businesses are run by 'bullsh*tt*rs' like Liam the Liar.

Heh, I calculate that he must have 'scr*w*d' more than half of his [100?]'real' customers. Just an interesting observation. - - OWM - keep praying - it may happen tomorrow.

You're in good company.

no doubt he's in a bath pulling his pisser or thereabouts owm

Got any evidence?

Just Pondering: Whatever happened to Bubbles ?

Who says a reseller can't "offer technical support"? I started out in the hosting business with a reseller account, back in 2001, and worked my butt off supporting my clients while my business grew to renting and eventually colocating our own servers. There are plenty of good hosts out there that source their inventory from reseller accounts. I know a host who has 2,500+ clients, and he sources his inventory from many reseller accounts in various datacenters around the globe. It's a model that's worked well for them. Absolutely! You're preaching to the choir here.

If you come back, atleast shoot for once.

Haha very cool, i'm actually kind of jealous. Maybe Liam will get to hook up with the beauty queen

It's more likely 12 people doing oddjobs and design work. And even more likely not full-time employees.

Another funny post by Liam, does this sound like a businessman hosting 2 million websites for 250,000 companies worldwide? http://www.hosthideout.com/showthrea...4858#post79450 ...I think not (although I know it is four years old, still thats hell of a growth spurt). Ok, I must stop now. Naughty.

omg....the TV will be onto him now. apparently he's told the press or whoever that with his acting career he's acted on major soaps like coronation street and hollyoaks... http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage...icle652760.ece lmfao.... all he's ever done was very minor extra parts like "guy crosses the street with a pushbike" most of which ended up on the cutting room floor apparently so he wasn't even in them. here's his IMDB profile...IMDB is like wikipedia..in that you can write it yourself lol... take a look http://www.imdb.com/name/nm2202915/ Actor: "Coronation Street" .... Football Fan (2 episodes, 2005-2006) ... aka Corrie (UK: informal title) ... aka The Street (UK: informal title) - Episode #1.6207 (2006) TV episode (uncredited) .... Football Fan - Episode #1.6179 (2005) TV episode (uncredited) .... Football Fan "Hollyoaks" .... Shopper (3 episodes, 2005) - Episode dated 14 November 2005 (2005) TV episode (uncredited) .... Shopper - Episode dated 11 November 2005 (2005) TV episode (uncredited) .... Shopper - Episode dated 23 August 2005 (2005) TV episode (uncredited) .... Shopper Alfie (2004) (uncredited) .... Funeral Boy "Grange Hill" .... Computer Guy (2 episodes, 2002-2004) - Episode #27.20 (2004) TV episode (uncredited) .... Computer Guy - Episode #25.15 (2002) TV episode (uncredited) .... Computer Guy Hardly actor material there lol.... if that's the case I was in Braveheart this guy is hilarious....Son of Walter Mitty owm

I truly hope they out him early and replace him with Jamie. Jamie deserves to be there....that other lying baffoon doesn't. A few months ago, one of the Food Network competitions had a contestant who claimed he went through Culinary school, and also served in the Persian Gulf. He did neither. He ended up in the final 3, at which point they outed him for all his lies, and was asked to leave the show. Liam, OUT!!!! Jamie, IN!!!! Vito

whos going to run his bussiness while hes in there???? LMAO LAUGHT ALL.....

I do not think any UK media is renowned for its inteligence or integrity !

He'll get with the fashion designer...

Maybe we should leave liam young alone? I am just curious as to why people are going after him? Is it because he is now a member of Big Brother? Maybe it is just a part of Show Biz thing :-) Net

http://www.hostblog.co.uk/2008/64 lol..it'll take forever for google to drop all this type of stuff. Liam wants to make himself a brand....well I think it's pretty safe to say he's been BRANDED like cattle and anyone interested in him before know the facts will now steer clear. owm

well it makes a change from chatting about review sites /me runs off to post a review about OxyUk (liam's hosting) hmmmmm owm

well i used £10 on 25p calls to vote him out well worth a tenner owm

woohoo! justice has been done. Liam got booted out and I'm off to church on Sunday to give my thanks to god.... thanks go out to Jamie who started this thread and all other members who kept it alive. owm

OWM - How was your visit ? Now how out of date is that ?, - if he reg. it before he was 18, would that be illegal

Is it a case of, we want it to be him ? If it is him, he Must Not keep his hands in his pockets during the interview. If it's not him, 'Good Luck other Liam'

Didn't he get fed up of being molested, so checked in at the local zoo? Paul

From totnes's first post in this thread: So no coincedence [or conspiracy], just wonder why a 35 year old Mail Order business man is looking at a NUS site ? Any suggestions ?

Totnes... Welcome to WHT but before you start thinking that liam has a turnover of £200k, please read all or at least some of the facts that have been dug up about him. for instance...let's take away the fact that he's a reseller who has no more than 100 accounts (most of which are his own sites), he also posted on here back in October as to how he would go about making up inflated figures to make his company look a lot bigger than it really is. There is a lot of factual stuff in here that you have missed about him that proves his story is all a fraud. He's told so many stories including how he has from 70,000 to 2 million clients on HIS network and that he employs 12 staff. Most of these claims date back to 2005 when the guy was actually dishing up pizzas in Pizza Hut. Regardless of the big brother crap and how he lied to get on, the guy's told one hellofa ton of porky pies about his business. I honestly think that you're something to do with him because you're resident in this thread Good luck with your business by the way. here in 2005 he lies about having 2 million clients worldwide lol....when we know he was actually serving meals in pizza hut http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showth...ight=oxyuk.com and the one he made a few months before going on big brother.... http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=644374 owm

SO i got a purple tank..beat that ..pink is always second place.. lol well hes lucky..im trying to get into tv or movies...acting basically ..no luck yet well because i only send ersumes and never "Follow up"... maybe sooner or later if i do ill promote WHT :O

I think he does have some "staff" but their out of office, probably temp staff from forums. Another email appears on a whois info I saw but I cannot remember the address. Big brother lasts more than a month as far as I know. Doesn't one person get voted off each week? His company is registered but not to the address on his site. That's probably a virtual office from a quick google search. I assume VAT number is right so he must be pulling in some cash. I say that because why would anyone get VAT registered for less than 30k a year?

100% absolutely agree!

I guess he's adhering to, "fake it til you make it".

Here are some hilarious claims Liam makes in that video - More like 200 pounds a year. More like his sites have received 1/4 million hits over the years. Only by 8 yr old kids. Titled - "Fake it til you pretend you're making it". Watching the video, this kid is really delusional. I think he really believes he's this big success and has some serious mental issues. It's either that, or BB producers have told him to pretend to be this big internet hotshot. I kind of feel sorry for him, as I think the BB producers are using his lies and BS to use as an attack on him into the show, to drum up publicity when they kick him out of the house for lying. I can't believe the BB producers could be so stupid not to see past this kid's lies of delusional stupidity.

I wish I could believe that, but when the press is as daft: extract from 'the Liverpool Echo': "His company OxyUK has expanded with 12 directors , more than 1,500 subscribers and 1.5m worldwide clients" I have no faith !

Watching BBLB, everyone seems to be sussing him out. People are asking whether he actually manages 12 people that nobody has seen considering he lacks the ability to speak properly. That, and that he had admitted to making love with a cushion, slept with x amount of girls and been involved in various group "naughty" activities.. The BS continues..

I dunno. I think it could happen, as the longer he's in the house the more the groundswell about his "success" gets about on the net. And besides, we don't need the conventional press when there's hundreds of thousands of bloggers and forums out there, attracting all those Google bots.

Yeap on second thoughts I think he suffered enough when the truth came out, just leave him alone to reflect upon himself....

Well I hate to be the one to say it, but: Thats the most 'normal thing' I've heard about him, although doing it on TV is a bit wiered. - -

I used to think that but they made the right choice with Liam. Jamie's too good for that BB crap. I'm pretty sure they knew Liam was full of crap, but in the BB producer's eyes this made him more interesting for the crap format that is BB.

haha, brilliant!

Say g'day to the big guy for me. I'll be in Sydney for a few days for a Bon Jovi concert on Monday night, so I'll miss church this Sunday.

All 12 of them ! - -

I don't think that's him. Claims to be a first job.

What you sow you reap. Liam's lies and deceit will haunt him for many years to come, thanks to Google. I feel only pity for him. One could only hope that he learns from this but I doubt it.

lmao ..I missed this reply. I'm sorry if that quip sounded a little too crispy or a bit deep pan that was over cheesey, but I tend to get off to a flying starter. Anyway....here's a quote direct from their site. Yep...what with the paper round and morning milk delivery...you could be quids in. Anyway...here's a pic of the knuckle shuffling rifle polisher himself just before he went into meet up with GW to discuss business strategies. Also @Brian lol OWM

hmm...my first paying job after college was a psychiatric nurse back in the 80's believe it or not...I suppose that's how I'm a little mad. Then I went into sales and ended up selling cars until I got bored with that and moved into what I do now. owm

maybe it would have been better to give him a WHT T shirt to wear in the house. owm

oh...look what we have here http://whois.webhosting.info/oxyonline.com oxyonline.com IP Addresses: 208.101.63.208 IP Country: United States Reverse IP Lookup: IP hosts 97 domains Hosting Company Name: ICANN Registrar: ENOM, INC. Creation Date: Jan 14 2005 Expiry Date: Jan 14 2008 <----hope he's renewed it Web Server: N/A Website Status: N/A -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- =-=-=-= Visit AboutUs.org for more information about oxyonline.com AboutUs: oxyonline.com Contact: Domain name: oxyonline.com Registrant Contact: OxyUK Technologies Liam Young () +44.8701160823 Fax: +44.8701160823 OxyUK HQ UK, NA GB LOL.....2,000,000 sites *cough* *cough* more like 100 owm

Oh don't spoil this kid's opportunity, do you really need to get that type of satisfaction? Sure he lied to have a better chance to get on TV, but if the same opportunity happened for you, i'm sure you would try to make yourself sound as best as possible too. And honestly I don't think contacting the shows producers would do much, I read in an article that I found on him by looking through one of the links here earlier, and in it he said he had a passion for 2 things "acting and business"(and that was dated in 2005) so he's perfect for what the producers are looking for; Actor, Entrepreneur, young, and decent looking.

from what I can make out...a load of folks from that digital spy forum have been red hot contacting the media gutter press about him with their expose. Can't wait till one of them papers run a tell all on him..and they will. --------------- Originally Posted by Digital Sid Wait if his company started in Jan last year, and he's been hosting since he was 8, then he must have been doing it illegally or lying. Someone should e-mail channel 4 and tell them he's a liar and a fraud lol. The company was incorporated last year - he could have been going on as a sole trader before this occured quite legally and without incident - however this would put paid to his 12 employees, the first of which he claims to have employed age 13 (I think I remember him saying that). If he has been making any sort of money from this company (which by the looks of his 100 odd customers) he isn't, he was probably not paying tax before he went limited (well apart from the national insurance on his Pizza Hut earnings :-P) Overall I think it's probably quite safe to say he might have had the internet since he was 8 - but he probably wasn't running his current business. His oxyonline.com domain was registered in early 2005 making him around 16 when he started his 'business' in its current form. Its financial dealings between then and the date of the company being incorporated are something I think the Inland Revenue would be most interested in investigating. --------------------------------------> OUCH! dedicated to Liam http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ac_7EmYGXs owm

Hopefully with a little tantrum and Big Brother's boot firmly up Liam's bum, with millions watching. That's a fitting result for Liam the Liar. No, I'm not being cruel here. Liam deceived and BS'd his way onto BB and stole the position of a real successful young entrepeneur. He stole someone else's opportunity through deceit and that someone could have been our Jamie. Jamie's a real young entrepeneur, who is actually running a real business, and not this delusional baffoon pretending to be a bigshot, while having achieved nothing.

This - More lies lol.

I think when he was born they got his as* and head mixed round the wrong way I'm gonna gift him the Outlaw Web Master Special Prize for being able to excrete crap from both ends of his anatomy effortlessly. owm

I'm shocked an appauled. I'm better looking than this guy and I damn well bet I make more money than him - I should be the one in the big brother house! Of course in reality, I wouldn't be able to as I'm so busy looking after my business . Like most people on here, if I had no access to the web for any length of time, I would either go insane or my company would slowly but surely crumble! Damn straight, if I had 2 million customers - I wouldn't even consider it!

Or, dont get sick of such a poor guy

I wasn't quick enough, I recken Google is watching OWM's every posting !

BB is on it's way out. People grew tired of it a while back. They held editions in Glasgow earlier this month for the next series and only 20 folk turned up lol and I think 1/2 of them were homeless off the street looking for a bed. When it first started out there were 1000's lining up to apply. lol..at least Liam seems to be winning something, even if it is for the least favourite housemate. http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...d.php?t=728061 owm

And I bet if you read through E4's terms, it will say only one vote per number will count. Just think of all the beer you could have spent that on.

Here is the interview http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4pJVokbXJA

the visit went fine church is just 150 yards from my house..maybe I should spend more time going there. owm

well....after his O2 call centre & pizza hut stint last year, I suppose it would count as his 1st real job. got to snigger that the lad's job interview is with a company called "ripple effect". I'm sure Joan Rivers would agree owm

Well Done, Liam. Hope you will get a chance in Bollywood to act with Shipa Shetty

You guys are mean

It all makes sense now

Sounds interesting, looks like ill be tuning in again. Haha see what you mean there, they have to block out certain bits on the live show or else they would have nothing to show on the 9Oclock one. Annoying if your watching!

Subdomains? Googling oxyonline.com brings up a few but there won't be 99,900

Some more media - I nearly lost a mouthful of coffee reading "His super intelligence". Won't be long now before the media sniffs fraud, and will come down on him like a tonne of bricks. It will be well deserved too. You can't hide something like this from the internet crowd.

Has anyone bothered to forward this thread to the Sun yet so he can be eaten alive? And if they do print it in the press, the names of everyone whose responded to this thread should be printed with it.

http://liamyoung-oxyuk-truth.com/ This kid's gonna get eaten alive by the bloggers and such. He'll be imfamous and lucky to get a job flipping burgers.

I like the way he just throws in words to make him sound good.. Come back for our "robust solution" through our "advanced technologies" What technology would that be? Homestead? The more I watch BB, the more this guy pisses me off. Fair enough the other people are just as full of themselves as this guy, but Liam just takes the cake.

He has a head? I thought it was a mop Ok, ok - cheap shot, but what do you expect when you go on a show like BB?

Oh dear..!

and now youve created a multiple source on WHT...congrats... yawns....its only a few threads down but yet to continued to create another thread, were you trying to steal the other threads thunder? your only going to get multiple views back of whats already been written in the few threads down.... think this should be merged. as I said in the other thread or what somone has already said in the other thread... I dont think people are just gunna drop it, they want to see justice, you cant just simple lie publicly on tv and expect to get away with it specially when you have different content written on your own website.

Remember he Claimed he had ' Sixty ' previous sexual encounters { 40 Male and 20 Females } + he claims to have been to four orgy's Not bad for a 19 year old that looks and act's like a 13 year old. He is a Dreamer with no special talent at all and really he should not have been offered a place. He even admitted that he forgot to send in his tax return but he assumed that he would not face a fine as he had a valid excuse. As a ex Tax inspector of the Revenue { now called HMRC } I know his excuse is not valid and he will face a fine and he is highly likely to be hit for a large assessment on his ' Claimed ' earnings as well .

I'm taking bets now that OWM was 1 of the 20, this could our opportunity to see OWM wearing his brand new WHT - Tshirt and his kilt. Seriously though, if they do a Glasgow version of BB, will it have sub-titles ?

Jamie, self pwnage. Sorry Davey. Nice try though.

lol... back to reality with a bump for liam then at least he admitted he's not just got 150 customers. most likely it's considerably less ironically that he'll be remembered for getting caught wanking himself off live on telly .....that's not what i'd call heroic support. owm

Ah, so this is the "Liam" everyone keeps talking about

Some of you (and/or some of the TFL members) really think that is Liam of OxyUK? The way this thread was carrying on and getting ever more off-topic and boring, I assumed some of you were a little obsessed and crazy, but to now see a Liam on another forum who happens to be from Liverpool and immediately think that is Liam of OxyUK is just plain wild. Liverpool is a city. A city with thousands of people called Liam. A city with hundreds of people called Liam who are looking for a job. FYI, the Liam you're referring to on TFL appears to be a Liam Potter, 18 years old. There, mystery over. Stop with the obsessive, crazy talk.

I'm sure Liam took that quote from "Inside Man". It was on sky movies probably the day before that was posted.

Could be, but OWM really cracked me up here

Honestly, I'm nothing to do with him. Of course this is the only thread I have posted in, coz I found this site ultimately from reading that Liam had exaggerated his business to get on BB on wikipedia and I thought so what? Some of the comments on here did come over as a bit b1tchy. Are you saying he completely lied about everything? I'm sure he's probably not the first person to lie or exaggerate his business to try to make a good impression, but he's certainly not the brightest of sparks if he made such enquiries that were traceable back to him. I am usually doing the opposite, trying to persuade the tax man that I'm earning less. Well they say there's no such thing as bad publicity, so it will be interesting to see what happens to him. As someone else already pointed out, if you go on a programme like Big Brother, then be prepared to take any flack that comes with it. I still stand by my original comments that 19 is too young an age to write off someone's career and it's the media driven materialistic society we live in that has probably driven a kid to lie like this in the first place. To be honest, I feel sorry for Liam, that he has felt the need to lie like this, and that he has become such a figure of ridicule.

You know this might be crazy... but this might be the first time I actullay watch BB just to see how he gets on.

Boo, wish Jamie got on the show instead.

Yeah, the walls will start closing in on Liam. He has sealed his own fate. This should stand as a warning to others - cheaters never prosper.

Watch Liam Young's introduction to the Big Brother house (this got about 3 million viewers during the time period): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbzMuUxgTqs By the way, the point during 2005 where on this forum he claims he had a £2300 a month flat in London? He lived with his parents and worked at Pizza Hut. Ahem. Regarding The Sun thing - nah. Man, he bullshitted his way to get into the BB house, but... uhm... so what? His hosting business is clearly now screwed, but I somehow doubt he cares.

Just thought I'd post how it's great to see 2 online communities working together with this. Hats off to the guys and gals over at digitalspy.co.uk for thier incredible skills in uncovering the web of lies of deceit of Liam Young. If only the conventional media was as sharp as that bunch. Hi Electra.

Endemol is actually a mix of 2 names Joop van den Ende and John De Mol. Two television guru's, at least in Holland but with BB also abroad. They are 2 of the richest people in Holland, so it might be an odd name but it works great Did you put water on for tea Matt? Yes, you say? Got cookies as well? Oh my it's great out there. Not bad for a Dutchy ey?

lol of course. owm

I was reading on another site most people believed he was sucessful because he has an IPhone - I bet his mum pays for it.

it depends.... if every one of those customers submitted a ticket on a daily schedule then no that would be some insane support issues. your be supprised not all customers need support some are intelligiant enough to not need it. but yes 12 people with 2 million websites isnt a very legit way of handleing support via tickets.... if you divide that 12 by 2 million thats about 166 thousand tickets per employee... if he was paying hes employees $2 per ticket thats about $33,000 not bad for answering tickets dont think id like to spend a whole day if not more answering tickets though lmao. NOTE: proberly worked it out wrong. but say if that 33,000 was right times that by 12 that comes to $396,000 convert that to GBP that comes too....at todays conversation rate as of 12.34pm GMT.... £202,333.73....now add all his running costs to that amount well lets just say he cant be turning over 200,000 a year. thats if his 2 million customers sumbit 1 ticket each over the period of a year and he pays 12 staff $2 per ticket.

Liam Young had a conversation with John and its clear Liam lives on Cloud Cuckoo Land as he wants to market himself as a ' brand ' like Richard Branson - who does he think he is kidding - Love or hate Branson he is bloody smart at what he does and there is no way this young idiot will be able to achieve any form of branding { apart from being branded a liar }

yeah mate spot the jock on big brother lol owm

Is anyone else not seeing his usual website? I just noticed it's one of those expired domain selling type pages. WHOIS info is all still his though...

Unseen Liam Young footage.. http://www.mediadaily.co.uk/2008/01/...other-footage/

Has he been online since leaving BB?

I don't understand what you mean, they're proper jobs and unless I've missed something.. I don't think that's nice to people who are working and have worked there.

i dont think Liam regrets anything. I give him a lot of credit. but this stupid show, how can they not verify these things. it is so easy to do. just visit his office and see these 12 employees or ask for tax forms or something.

I am 44 so forgive me...what is NUS?

Then at 35, you should realise that Liam has only become the figure of ridicule because he lied. To summarize the gripes of WHT; 1) There are more succesful and more ethical people on this forum that could have been selected, particularly Jamie who was interviewed by BB. 2) This kind of practice significantly hurts our industry and we frown upon it.

The guy lives in my town (year below me at college) and is a bit full of himself. One of the last times he posted here he was picked apart. I don't usually watch big brother but this will be entertainment Good luck to him though if that's what he wants to do. I personally couldn't stand it in there. The last few series have just been full of crazy people.

208.101.62.90 is the primary IP for that system. # host 208.101.62.90 90.62.101.208.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer red.oxyuk.net .62.101.208.in-addr.arpa. If he's been in the industry since he was 8, one would hope that he knows how to set a PTR record properly by now...

is all I can say to that.

pizza hut lol...i just end up laughing non stop. liam's lies are just like those pizzas...thin & crispy or deep pan owm

I would love to see the outcome of this. Hopefully he will make a fool out of himself.

I am pretty sure butty is a bacon sandwidch or just a sandwidch of some kind .

Mops do not spew out BS though !

Nobody here is so cruel as to wish that on anybody. - - And Anyway, at 19 most guys were/are better looking, even 'our Cilla' was. - -

You've missed off a 0, 166,000 x $2 = $332 000!

I quote from the - Liverpool Echo - 3rd January 2008 'His firm has a turnover of £200,000. His company OxyUK has expanded with 12 directors ' Now lets think about this for a second - if the ' turnover ' is £200,000 then really why would they need 12 directors ? The figures don't add up and is it not highly suspect that oxyuktechnologies.com is Closed until after he comes out . If I want a new server I can lease one 24 hours per day 365 days per year just with a few clicks I can create new domain's and have it live within minuets. one wonder's if there is any Full Time employees at all

He does some weird hair twitching thing constantly, and talks with his tongue between his teeth. I've no opinion on his business ethics or anything, but the guy does kinda look a bit freaky Also, considering how weird and ugly looking my gf thinks he is, I wonder how he's had '50+ sexual partners'.

oxyuktechnologies.com brings up the same old cheap template as usual for me

That's what you call hands on support.

Has he been kicked from the BB house yet?

Hehe, OWM People want you to be nice ! See what happens when you go for 150 yard walk on Sunday !

Publicity is publicity. He'll manage to come out with something from his TV appearance.

Gee, you computer guys are very cynical, no I am not in any way associated with Liam, I've never met him, and have not been to Liverpool in over 10 years. NUS is National Union of Students, but I only found that from a link on wikipedia - I didn't realise there was an age limit for looking at such sites. I should come on here more often, it seems I could learn a lot. I didn't know this was an US site, as I've never been on here before, I found it out of curiosity browsing the web after watching Big Brother, which I'd been watching recently. Yup, that would explain the deleting of certain words, and I thank you for implying I'm a 'young 35 year old', I find this much more preferable to being an 'old 35 year old'. Strange how many Americans are so uptight about swearing, yet their films are often littered with fowl language and they don't seem to give a second thought to their government launching illegal and immoral wars, but are offended by the f word. I'll never understand Americans. Seriously guys, rather than worry about a little kid who told a few Porkys to get on to Big Brother, I should concentrate all your efforts into providing fast reliable hosting and excellent customer service to your customers. If he's as bad as you say he is, then I doubt his business will do very well, but who knows, maybe he will learn from his BB experience, even read some of the negative posts on here, and carry on to be a huge success. He is after all a very young guy with his whole life ahead of him. As the owner of an online shop, I can tell you the most important thing is zero downtime, if you can offer that, or very near, and fix it fast if there is a problem, then you should do just fine!

If you know of anything he is honest about please do share.

I knew they should have chosen me! Anyway, I still wish him the best of luck. Having had multiple phone calls with the Big Brother producers, I know just how difficult it was to get on the show (this year they were inviting people, rather than taking applications from anybody who felt the need to apply). The application form alone was somewhere around 20 pages.

He said on TV that he has a "physical office" and has 12 staff working for him.. Either way, his numbers don't add up.. Personality wise he may be a great guy.. but his maths skills are indeed lacking..

Some interesting stuff popping up on Google: http://www.makeyourmark.org.uk/inspi...ies/liam_young

wow this is exciting. Good luck and all the best. Happy new year

Dont know why!, but i can only see him crying on stage (sixth sense, lol). His face is sort of destined for that. once that is over, he will all be fine. Back to where he should really be. sorry jamie.. if that was your place.

Indeed; http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=butty

he reminds me of a kid when I was back in school years back called Adrian Mornder not sure on the spelling of his surname... that kid just kept coming out with crap over and over again things I heard were: He was a millionaire... Marrid to one of the spice girls... Had a holiday home in spain... and so on... till this very day hes still coming our with lies expect their on a much larger scale.... I dont still hang with him but I was told by one of his friends when I saw them a few months back. I guess some people like to big their life up i dont know be interesting to hear his side of the story. i can guess what the title in the sun will be... "Cheap shot to fame" or somthing.

mate..my hairy scottish backside is better looking than this guy....moreso with the kilt on but I still wouldn't want it appearing on Big Crap Pan owm

I think this kid is suffering now as it is. This Poor kid that has to create this imaginary world where he's a big shot success, because there's too much pain in the real world. I feel sorry for this kid to tell you the truth. He must have had a sad childhood to create this imaginary world to hide and protect himself in. It's either that or he's a pathalogical liar and conman, with the ethics of a snake. I'm leaning towards the kid hiding in an imaginary world.

Of course there's not.

maybe hes had 50+ fantasies and getting them confused with real life partners lmao.

http://oxyonline.com/

anyone that sexually liberated is great in my book.

I think so...

He isn't denying it in the thread.

lmao.... nothing ever comes of a fake. Liam's old news and now that his stint on big brothers done and dusted...he'll go back to working in pizza hut. cool tool > http://whoishostingthis.com and now > http://whoishostingthis.com/www.oxyuktechnologies.com owm

I will never understand the english, they have no problem with fraud but throw the f word in a movie and watch them rant.

Don't hold your breath folks.

I happen to be watching this now and it's making me cringe. :| Big Brother is something I wouldn't usually watch; but I noticed this thread so I decided to watch it. Reading the previous thread the meantioned individual isn't someone I'd naturally support but I'll see how it goes... This is really making me cringe.

hmm...anyone though of selling this story to "The Sun" or "News Of The World" yet Might be worth a few quid owm

It's a shame that he's somewhat bluffed his way into the BB house. What's the chances he'll be returning here when he gets voted out (he hasn't got a chance against the others IMO)? Anyway, if you're hosting 2 million websites, surely your turnover is going to be well over 2 million - and thats only if you were charging £1 for hosting! Maybe someone from the mainstream media will come accross this when Googling about the BB housemates. The only other thing I can say is... good luck to him...

Good luck!

It's pretty wierd for me, Digitalspy is probably my second most visited site behind WHT, strange to see them come together after all the years I have been visiting them both!

To put this back on track, A friend of mine said he was just watching it and that " Liam " started talking about income tax and corporation tax and then said : " to be honest I am not sure about the legalilitys " Yes he said that not legalities. from the very little I have seen he seems quite a young 19 especially to be turning over 200k a year.

These people have mental health issues. It's pretty sad that they have to lie like that. I feel sorry for Liam as it's pretty obvious he's a screwed up kid and a social misfit. He's probably aware of the lies he's spreading, but mentally I don't think he can help it. He needs medial attention.

ROFL! Thanks for the laugh

perhaps its not an imaginary world...perhaps he does own the company but purhaps hes lied aboout a few things... im not going to repeat myself though checkout the other thread. e.g. turnover, tax registered, etc, etc.

I very much doubt he has 1 employee. Its pretty obvious as hes not taking any orders while hes in the big brother house.

Just pondering, how many pages in those 'top shef' magazines ? maybe about 50 ? - - but don't forget, he prob. started at 9, so thats only 5 a year !

Well its all over Liam, hes finally out!

It seems 'the world is in balance then' - - DID YOU GUYS KNOW: You can buy 'Liam Young' T-shirts online from our Amozon friends: http://www.amazon.com/o/ASIN/B000Z11...ZQFZJ6G2QYGCG2 You see, there are worse T-shirts than the famous WHT ones. - -

Yeah, he has http://ukpress.google.com/article/AL...SJfiWFShum1zcA

Assuming Jamie's correct, he's probably not bothering to respond because he thinks you've posted in the wrong thread or you're crazy. There's little point in addressing something that has nothing to do with you. It would be like if someone walked up to Amy and I and proclaimed I'd married my sister. We'd just slowly back away from the crazy person and go about our day. Denying or otherwise engaging nonsense is the best way to validate it.

That would be Egg on his face & Sh*t on his shoes, he can wash his face, but Sh*t Sticks. OWM, left wide open for you.

FYI, even though WHT is run by a U.S. company in a U.S. datacenter, most of the participants in this thread are British/European. If you're basing your inability to understand Americans on the replies you've received in this thread, it would seem most likely you're having difficulties understanding your own countrymen. If you're basing it on your general interactions with Americans, I can't help you there. We're a strange lot. I've been told by my business partners more than a few times that I'm a "right one." As for wars and morality, we have a subforum just for those discussions. http://www.webhostingtalk.com/forumdisplay.php?f=119 - feel free to speak your piece about all the social and political issues you wish there. Thanks!

It's a stupid tv show, that almost invites that kind of behaviour; I really wouldn't worry about it - we are talking about Big Brother FFS, not a scholarship at the London School of Economics, or the 2008 Prize for Young Entrepreneurs. People like me will always need web hosting, and if you have half a brain, it is not hard to find a decent hosting company. Liam's actions have not hurt your industry. The fact he has lied doesn't even appeared to have hit the main media, so I suspect they probably haven't even hurt him, it seems he's only being ridiculed on here. If I were him, I'd be more embarrassed about the cat impersonation and being filmed wanking in his bed. At the end of the day, a 19 year old kid told a few lies to get on a crappy reality tv show. So what? Personally I couldn't think of a worse nightmare than being on BB, however I would never apply in a million years. He's certainly generated a debate! BB needs deluded bisexual teenage Walter Mitty type characters that masturbate under the quilt when the cameras are pointing at them.

I hope the newspapers and people take a liking to him...or else we'll see one unholy character assasination. and skeletons appearing from every hidey hole. owm

straight for the jugular there dude I wish that Jamie had got on instead....but then again...Jamie will have been totally honest and that's what usually happens. Still...maybe in a few days..he'll be glad he didn't get on. owm

lol....either the sun or the daily star.... will pound him their reporters specifically target folks with grievences against bb contestants to get the bad rep on them...which is one reason I'd never even dream of applying to get on just kidding owm

bloggers go to work http://www.n3k4.com/general/liam-you...sting-company/ owm

Well, to be honest, hasn't he already? Since his main business was hosting (yes, from the age of 8) I can't see anybody using him as a host now. That business is pissed up a wall, really. The funniest thing I've seen so far is on one site he posted a rant about kiddy hosts, and how they hurt the industry. He posted the rant when he was a child.

My understanding was the company was turning over 200k/year - so thats 10UKP per customer per year (remember he has 2m csutomers )

stop press! this story will hit the newspapers soon. owm

She's not an entrepreneur, she's a civil servant lol infact I believe she was sacked from her job with the Met office shortly after the show.

Some of the comments on that blog entry are interesting. I'm not going to hold any of them as fact, but several people have said they know him and some of the things they have said are quite disturbing. Several have said he used to follow people around while making notes about them. Several have said he is bi-sexual (that's fine, by the way), but at least one (I didn't read all the comments) claims that Liam told him he was bi-sexual not because he wanted to be, but because he wanted the attention that it brought him. It seems he walks around with a business card dispenser strapped to his arm (It just creates an image, doesn't it...). I'm with Bob. I almost feel sorry for him. I'm not going to claim to know what his childhood was like, but from the way he appears to bave turned out, it seems like he didn't get the attention he needed.

For sure Liam aint 'There' - - [or anywhere on this planet] Full Time. Re. 12/13 Directors, I asked Liverpool Echo, if they had bothered to check this with Co. House, no reply. Re Tax, he only claimes a 'turn over' off £200,000, if half of his statements are half true, it's prob. a Tax loss of most of that. If BB want to come out of this fiasco with any honour left, they need to send in the Medics NOW - -

http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/ well here goes....2 weeks in and the floppy haired chicken choking liar is up for nomination and it looks to be a double eviction if there is a god....he will evict Liam here's a funny....looks like John has decided to eat his underpants rather than wash them owm

Any details - we are hungry

Maybe it should stay 'unseen' ? - -

From that link: An entrepreneur and a circus performer have become the latest contestants to be evicted from the Big Brother: Celebrity Hijack house. Which one is our Lovely Liam ? - -

The odds are very much that Jamie is totaly correct. But for a bit of Fun, let me send you to the 3rd link on google.co.uk for Liam Potter: http://www.unrealitytv.co.uk/big-bro...otter-present/ Now that I find wierd / spooky Hope Liam Potter lets us know how he gets on...........

If Liam where allowed to work around food.....

So i'm curious, what was your first paying job? I hope it wasn't a comedian.

If you take the BB part of Liam out of this thread, you will appreciate it is his business activities that p*ss us off . The BB just gives as a chance to express our 'humour' when he does such stupid stuff. Of corse many have expressed concern about his mental well being, and trust me , that is genuine concerne. Should you find you do contact him, please ask him to seriously consider getting help. He may also want to check in with the local SDT clinic, as a precaution after scr*wing about so much ! ps, I'm sure we would all hope he is better behaved when he reaches the ripe old age of 35.

From http://www.channel4.com/bigbrother/h...ile.jsp?id=210 From his own website http://www.oxyuktechnologies.com/aboutus.html

I hope that he doesn't get ripped for it in newspapers or magazines. He'd probably get some laughs for fooling channel four though. Never know he could get money from that! He's a nice lad to talk to but he can really put on a front to fool people. He is an actor - something BB didn't mention.

I've got to say - this is certainly exciting news! A WHT star! On Big Brother! And good for him if he's inflated his figures for the sake of Big Brother. It's a smart business decision, well, it might have been if he'd implemented it a bit better. It's the fighting business man that you start off as that helps you get to the top. And Jamie might have been wise to make the same decision if he'd really wanted to get onto Big Brother. TONS of businesses go out of their way to portray themselves as a huge corporation, when that just isn't what they are. In fact - you'll find most of the biggest businesses did it in their early days. Some of you are reacting as if he'd misled investors! That isn't to say I don't giggle when I see things like this: I just watched him on television saying that he still lives at home in Birmingham. He was discussing the "big step" it was to move out. Hmmmmm Good Luck Liam. You seem like a nice, reasonable and down-to-earth guy....in general.

One thing which hasn't been covered yet - who's answering his support tickets? He isn't, that's for sure. I tried calling his office number, but it's just some 'paid-to-answer-calls-in-his-name' person, it's not actually Liam's company. He *does* have paying customers. There's one who happens to post on the Big Brother forum.

Endemol are buffons, How could they not know this guy is a fake ! If his company is less than one year old then he must be telling porkies as he claims 11 years and if not they could have got a copy of their accounts for £5. If this story does break on bb or in a national paper, I hope somoene will post it here. Its just a deluded kid that rather than trying to make a go of his company thought he would lie and cheat his way onto a tv show in an effort to actually make something of his life. The bad news for him is he is going to end up back where he started.. Working at pizza hut and his name and reputation ( what little there was in the first place) will have been destroyed.

If only that could be true but I think its more likely that he's told the lies so many times over the last 2-3 years that he *actually* believes them himself now ... http://www.national-student.co.uk/na...ng_exposed.htm

Do you guys really think the producers are this dense? Shows like Big Brother are unscripted soap operas. Without controversy, they are worthless TV (many would argue they are worthless regardless, but we're talking about value to the networks). No offense Jamie, but as much as I was rooting for you, you would have made a terrible addition to the household. They don't want people based on their merit. They want people based on their ability to generate a commotion. You are squeeky-clean. You'd have a hard time lying about your professional experience even if the producers fabricated your qualifications for you (and I'm willing to give Liam the benefit of the doubt in this regard) - it's just not in your nature to artificially inflate yourself in this manner. Your original sentiments in this thread are nice ones. Best of luck getting through the Big Brother experience, Liam.

well she's still got more going for her than the anal glowstick juggler owm

bah i new I went wrong some where. cheers. - just thought id include what i worked out to show he cant possibly have that amount of staff based on a 200,000 turnover. well thats if the turn over is a yearly turnover. if its monthly...good luck to him thats one hell of a wage.

I'm not so sure, they are getting quite alot of publicity from it and no publicity is bad publicity.

Liam is 1 of 3 nominated for eviction, so there must be at least a 33% chance he'll get booted out. OWM, keep your fingers crossed. Will Liam come to this forum once booted of BB, and reply to everybodies comments, or will he go see a doctor ?

They asked him on the interview some questions from WHT.. They told him that its claimed he has only 150 customers, his mum is his only staff member and his website was shut down while he was in the house.. all live on air.. He BS'd through it, but looked worried

and here's a cool sign for the landlords to erect (no pun intended) at the £50 a week office he shares the rent with in Parr Street owm

Umm... the Circuspreneur

That article is about Liam McGough from BB8, not Liam Young from BB:CH.

i cant read that and wonder what somone could reply back to it... it sounds like an opening to a story lol.

Just to clarify, I'm english, have read every posting in this thread, and I'm too grey to ever be considered an old 35 year old[except maybe in Liams fantasy world]. And I gues totnes mis-typed when he said he found this thread while visiting NUS site, he was basicaly 'surfing' from wikipedia's site. BS might be accepted in the 'mail order / now online shop' industry, but we do not like it here. Your welcome to fantisise to your harts content in your personal life, that's upto you, but Lies / Fraud and Business, do not mix. Keep it Honest - Liam & totnes. Please remember that when Liam tried to fake it in a forum - false identity, he got caught, was his false identity just a 'little porky ?' No it was deciet & it failed. Maybe totnes could explain his wierd interest in this thread, if your a fan, there are forums less critical, where you can join others that think this Liam chap is OK or even like him. thats upto you. If you wish to justify his behavior, please do so, but a little more effert than 'little porkies don't matter'. If you want real challenging stuff to debate, check out the SI forum.

Thread closed by request as it appears to have run its course. Lois

Jay, That is what I was thinking when they said "turns over £200,000 a year" and has worked with "250,000" companies world wide. A slight decline from 2,000,000. *rolls eyes*

...this really annoys me, its obviously pure lies; or quite simply delusions of grandeur ! Even the 250,000 companies figure, on 200k revenue I'd be surprised if it was more than 1% of 250,000 companies. Liam only registered his company as Limited in January 2007 too; can't wait for those first set of accounts. From looking up his previous posts on this forum, he obviously is just a reseller (which wouldn't happen if you were hosting millions or even thousands of domains): http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=655025 This was also an interesting topic he started: http://www.webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=644374 ...but best of luck to him, I just feel sorry for the person whos place he took; be it the other guy from WHT or somebody else.

lmao...caught telling porkies ..man the gutter press will feed of him like last night's kebab meat ah well...get your liam - wanted poster here folks owm

He got a huge boo when entering the house also!

That's the thing though, life goes on beyond WHT, this community is extremely tiny compared to the whole market. People watching BB are going to go and sign up with him just because he has a small fraction of celebrity status. What he did was a smart business move, not only for his hosting business, but anything in his future as well. Even if he is humiliated on TV it will make him more successful then he would have ever been without it.

haha, man this thread is an instant classic.

your be supprised, they let jade goody say some hurtful stuff without bleepnig it out with sounds of birds like they do everything else. then the public picked up on it and got it sorted by complaining lol.

lol this thread is awesome i just spent over an hour reading all 13 pages, its 3:21am now lol. if the bb production team did "juice up" his figures because they wanted him in the house since hes an interesting character then they failed. ive rarely seen him in the highlights show and i watch the live feed on E4 and i hardly see him on that either. hes seems pretty boring to watch, hardly says or does anything. on the show he claims to have "an awesome social life" and slept with over 50 people LMAO. i bet he sits in his bedroom all day on his computer. he really wasted the entreprenor spot in that house, they could of had someone really interesting in there liam should be hitting on jade as well she is so gorgeous and has a really nice personality

All right, all you conspiracy theorists out there. Start postulating as to why this blog post has been removed!

I don't want it to happen, but should Liam have a Breakdown during or due to his presence in BB, the public may not forgive the production co.. Normally I'd agree, that any/all publicity is good, but there are exceptions, and I fear this is rapidly becoming one. I gues in the realworld we can only hope that for his [mental health] sake, he gets evicted very soon. Once out maybe he get the help he needs to 'start afresh', step 1. face reality step 2. accept reality step 3. whatever the doctors say.

This is how Joan Rivers announced it: "Next one - this is killing me," she laughed, "is Liam. Liam, you screwed up. You took your career into your own hands ," she said making a reference to earlier behaviour.

Haha, he said:

We should consider a new business 'term' instead of saying - 'that's so lame' say: - thats so 'Liam' So next time you have a problem and your host tells you, they experienced an unexpected problem and there fixing it. you can reply with 'that's realy so Liam'. The only problem is - he will get the branding and recognition he begs for.

Is he a .... clown?

Isn't that what life's about?!

well if he served you a mac chicken meal....the image of him polishing his rifle live on telly would just stick in your throat owm

I don't think the English have a problem with the F word in movies, I certainly don't, I was just commenting on how Americans are very uptight about swearing, as was demonstrated by the censorship of the word "b*tch", yet many US films are full of swearing. If it is the case that the majority of posts on here are from Europeans, that would explain why I didn't notice it was a US forum; hence my original post asking why the word "b*tch" had been censored and not the word 'wank', to which I was told it was because this is a US web site. Brian, mail order, means we post the majority of our orders; online shop means that our orders are placed via an internet web site, though we do still cater for a small number of customers with an old fashioned printed catalogue and a very small number of our customers pick stuff up directly from our warehouse. Please don't read that I typed mail order in one post and online shop in another that this is somehow BS; as far as I'm concerned, mail order business and online shop are pretty much the same things; how else would you purchase something from an online shop without it being sent to you in the post? I think you're trying to be too clever for your own boots! I had not even known that Liam had exaggerated his business claims, until found the wikipedia entry, which also had some highly libellous but rather funny comments about Liam implying he was also a rentboy, which have since been removed. On the wikipedia entry, there is a link to the NUS article and from there a link to this site. I was just surprised at the venom there was towards Liam and reaffirmed my opinion that computer/ technical types are often some of the most b*tchy and pious people you could ever wish to meet. At the end of the day, who cares how someone got to be on Big Brother? I certainly couldn't give a sh*t; I didn't even know his company was a web host reseller until I found this forum, so you cannot be serious if you think Liam's actions can actually damage the reputation of reputable and well established web hosts. I don't have any particular interest in this subject, but each time a reply is made to my original post, I get an email saying someone has replied to it, so I just replied again - I thought that's how web forums work?

I'm guessing either channel 4 inflated the numbers or he incorrectly filled in the application form. I have to say the second one is more likely but surely Channel 4 would research this? This gives me doubts about him starting when he was 8 years old too. I'm not watching it at the moment, can't stand the show but might watch one day to just check how Liam is doing.

With the way some of the WHT members are ripping this guy to shreds while he's unable to defend himself, I'm thinking the complete opposite. Knowing what I know about the application process, I would say it's far more likely that Endemol (the production company) has hiked the numbers for him than the other way around. But that's just me. I'd rather put the blame on a TV production company than one young kid. That's if there's any blame to be put out there. Honestly, it would have been nice to get on the show. There are at least two girls who look like they might need a handsome entrepreneur. I'm pleased for Liam though. I'm just amazed that two WHT members were even considered for the place. Even more so because it was Endemol who contacted us out of the blue, rather than us applying (at least I'm assuming that's the case with Liam, as it was with me).

Oh dear, somebody needs to take the shovel from him; before he reaches the core.

I hear his mother's getting booed by her neighbours too lol. Folks who live in his area are laughing their heads off regarding the lad who worked in pizza hut but it actually turns out he's an internet entrepenuer lol. Maybe he was in charge of pizza hut's online orders owm

I completely agree. I mean, people can't sign up with him now because he's closed his business whilst he's in the house (apparently his 84 other staff members can't create accounts), but one day he'll be back I'm sure. Certainly, though, he'll make a fortune from media interviews, nightclub openings, that sort of thing. He won't need to bother about his hosting business. He's openly said whilst he's been on Big Brother that he's trying to establish *himself* as a brand. I'd imagine in a months time this topic will resurface once his customers realise he's too busy being famous to deal with them.

I honestly think that this is the best WHT thread - EVER

Absolutely not. And that's why early on in this thread I decided to lay the blame on the corporation as opposed to one kid. But then I saw his post on here where he asked how he could inflate his turnover for the media. Perfectly timed for the second phone conversation I had with Endemol where I was asked my turnover. That was when my mind changed and I realised that Liam really has lied and done so by himself. Sure, Endemol may have known, but ultimately, Liam made that decision to deceive. Antics under the covers with a beauty queen and flexible circus performer might have changed your mind. No, you're right. The producers were not looking for somebody with the highest turnover or the most customers. They were looking for an entertainer. Whether we like it or not, Liam can entertain (albeit with lies and a crap hair style). For everybody saying this is going to hit the press... I think you're dreaming. It won't hit the press. I guarantee you that. It's just not going to happen. If it was going to hit the media, it would have done so already.

Liam's scam has just been aired live on the Ian Collins show on radio Talksport. www.talksport.net That show has 10's of millions of listeners daily and from what I gather they are going to be investigating it further. Woohoo lmfao...he'll get roasted alive owm

Ooh. Maybe the small green men got to him? Like this one...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=9UqG9P0jQ38 should say enough.

hmm Brian...I think there's 4 nominations so it might be 2 getting ousted please ...please..please....I will go to church this Sunday and thank God personally owm

lol Adam, I'm glad he clarified that. Google's gonna haunt this kid for the next 10 years.

here's a pic of his cat owm

Well his hair makes him look like he should be in a Circus, So he probably is

But it's what comes up when you search 'Liam Potter' [the one that went for his first real job interview], I find it wierd or am I getting Paranoid ?

I found this thread from a link from the NUS site that was linked on the wikipedia page about celebrity big brother. Wow, what <snipped> you computer geeks are; so what if a kid told a few porky pies to get himself on Big Brother! I can't believe that so many people should wish for a young guy to crash and fail so badly. As a 35 year old male who bears very little resemblance to the man I was when I was 19 years old, I think you should give the kid a break. We live in such a materialistic society where we are bombarded by media driven crap about the need to succeed, yet when a 19 year old boy buys into this and aspires to be successful, you people just are all jumping to bring him down. Who knows, in 10 years time, Liam's business ventures may become very successful and he might become a most enlightened individual? I don't think you can judge anybody at such a young age, and he really doesn't deserve the flack he is getting on here. At least he was entertaining on the show! The Brian Sewell wank expose had me in stitches and to be fair, Liam took it on the chin. I would have died of embarrassment in the same situation.

Totnes, I agree with you, I posted back in page 6 or something and forgot all about this. Infact to be honest I never even knew Big Brother was still on! The forum is run by the yanks but there are a number of Brits on here.

Maybe he showed them website stats and said "Look I've had 2,000,000 hits ermm... I mean customers since we launched in 2001!" but even that's pretty high. Hosting 100,000 websites worldwide doesn't make sense if he only pulls in £200,000 in revenue a year. Unless he charges £2 a year for hosting Maybe he means 100,000 files and they thought "oh u mean websites"? Oh well. They're only stats. Don't suppose it really matters now. He's on the show

Here's a novel idea... how about we reserve this thread for our best wishes, w00ts and whistles in our support for an industry colleague, and then when he gets out of the house you approach him about the numbers. At least then he can answer for himself. That sounds reasonable, right?

Classic, if not a teeny tiny bit mean

Well my Scottie friend, your films not as 'big' as mine he he he - - said the 'very naughty boy'.

And if that's the case, this thread will resurface yet again in a few years when Liam breaks down and can't live a lie anymore. I wouldn't trust anybody who values their integrity less than their sick desire to deceive, lie and cruise their way through life because they 'want to be somebody'. Sure, I want to be somebody too. Sure, I want to have a positive impact on peoples lives. Sure, I want my name to be known and I want to provide well for myself, friends and family, but by God my integrity is far more important than all that! I understand Liam's desire to be on the show. I was as excited as the next person when I got the call. Despite pleas from Endemol not to, the first thing I did was shout about it to friends. But there's a difference between being excited and being delusional and heartless. For those saying you wish I was in, I appreciate the thoughts and kinds words. However, one of my concerns before I decided to take Endemol up on the offer and apply was whether my integrity and character was going to be put in yet another TV freak show. Looking at how the show has turned out, I'm glad I didn't get selected. I think I'd be kicking myself for applying. It's embarrassing to watch.

Yeah, I see him as a sad little boy with some pretty serious mental health issues. I'm starting to pity him somewhat.

if its going to hit the press it'll do it when he comes out...to damper his chance of being sucessful after leaving the house. if they do it now there only peak to soon and people will forget about all his lies and think who cars he came x th place.

He might actually create real internet celebrity for being a laughing stock and a huge faker. It could actually work to his favor, in some twisted way. I saw him on the show saying he wanted to create himself as a brand. Good thinking there, considering his business success has all been only imaginative thus far.

http://66.102.9.104/search?q=cache:Y...ient=firefox-a

If I had one wish..it would be that an Al Qaeida suicide bomber would burst into the house and detonate himself whilst the shows live Big Brother's all washed up and Channel 4 should just toss that show and replace it with Sport or whatever. owm

I haven't read all posts in this thread, but did anyone notice that his domain expired two days ago according to the whois info?

Self-inflicted damage I call it.

Some poor soul, will have to say: 'That's Purrrrrrrfect', well it ain't gona be me(w) - -

hmm...well I've seen clowns juggle their balls...literally maybe liam can ask victor if there's a spot in his circus for a knuckle shuffler owm

You're getting paranoid... ...and wierd.

Clearly you aren't in this business. While a lot, actually most of, the crying in this thread is pretty immature, it's kids like this that help give real hosts a bad name. This kid is part of the problem. You just don't see it from our side.

When you put your blood and sweat into a business and industry for so long, and some punk kid decides to come on a popular show and downright disrespect something you have worked hard for and enjoy - you tend to get a little angry I think the frustrations expressed here are all justified.

let's be serious for a moment. the very best of luck to him and i do hope he wins....but starting his hosting business at 8 years old *cough* still..he would have to bend things a little or a lot as it seems to get on....which by the way will most likely be his downfall when the press start digging as they tend to do with BB...cause they just love to bring people crashing back to earth with an almighty bang. owm

Endemol....sounds too much like End Em All...or some kind of laxative. yeah come on folks....wish Liam luck..at least if nothing else it'll give good reason to watch the program. it might have been the X Factor respects owm

I wonder what his next TV appearance will be on?....Crimewatch perhaps owm

i wonder how long it will be till the others in the house suss him out....that shouldn't take too long I imagine. owm

Bah, you would have shone like the star you are, Jamie. Cream always rises... Besides, I have really missed your ....ummmm..... "mild" accent since your last visit to Canada. I wanted to hear it again. Vito

[QUOTE=othellotech;4891173]If only that could be true but I think its more likely that he's told the lies so many times over the last 2-3 years that he *actually* believes them himself now ... QUOTE] that is a killer link

Hahah, there's a video of him awake when everyone else is asleep on the BB website. That would be me aswell. 7am = bed time

Bob, He obviously doesn't have the intelligence to have thought this through. It's his dirty laundry uncovered and catching up with him. I think you'll find higher IQ levels in a pond.

I just noticed that the blog was removed and I never had a chance to read it. One thing about all of this - in time when you google Liam - WHT will come up and all this negative attacking on Liam won't look so hot. I am a bit disappointed that so many went after him. It almost leads one to think there are a lot of jealous people in here. Maybe he is not all he claims to be, who in this world that goes on reality shows really is? (not many). Let him be is what I say. Now - if I WERE Liam - I sure would be beefing up my site and services to welcome those interested in web hosting after being on TV.

Its clear from http://www.national-student.co.uk/na...ng_exposed.htm that some of his wild claims are just that wild claims.

Which domain would that be? I noticed Expires oxyonline.com was to expire two days ago, but it looks like it has been renewed Expires: 2009-01-14

Anyone have a video?

haha 'the network we are on hosts over 2 million sites!' wonder if he had that one ready to fire off knowing no one would know what the heck he was talking about and probably just forget it. Has anyone who hosts with him posted here (sorry if they did I did not read the whole thread) I was wondering if mom was holding the business down or if people have just been waiting for ticket responses this entire time.

Only his squirting flower is not quite a flower.

Call me crazy but after this whole thread it honestly looks like you're in love with the guy and completely obsessed with him.

I agree with you

Believe me, they're not! I think you should chill and not get so angry, there are far more things going on in the world that justify anger more than the actions of a 19 year old kid on a trashy tv show.

He stated he hosted "two million sites" back in this thread (webhostingtalk.com/showthread.php?t=448560). Presumably he used those same "inflated" figures when providing a blurb to Channel 4...

I find it hard to believe the show's producers didn't verify Liam's claims of success. I've had a gutful of these little kids lying and ruining this industry. I wonder what grand claims he made to the show's producers? He's also banned from WHT. I hope someone contacts the show's producers and reveals his lies.

Am I too old at 22 to feature on BB? At least I don't have to BS about how many sites we host or our turnover. I wouldn't put myself through the shame of BB for £50k though. Hey Liam, see you at HostingCon (assuming you can afford the flights after paying your 12 staff).... and get a hair cut. /me runs off to submit this to The Sun

Honestly, I don't even think the press will suss him out, let alone the other housemates. At least not to a point where the press report it. I'm pretty sure this will ruin his reputation online and nowhere else. I could be wrong, but I just can't see this turning in to anything more than plenty of forum members and bloggers reporting. Of course, that's just what I'm expecting. It might not be what I'm hoping...

I can't take that serious as any company's name ...I mean it sounds so much like a cure for Diarrhoea (loose stools) owm

it looks like webhostingtalk are going to get the publicity after all just need it written in the papers now hehe.

He looks rather ridiculous in his pink shorts

Bob's only raging cause Liam can prove he has Australian origin or so he said on Big Brother less than an hour ago. Hopefully with the amount of crap he can exaggerate...he'll be a full blown Aussie by the time tonight's show goes on air. owm

I'm not sure I agree, Jerett. I don't think anybody is jealous of somebody who is living a lie. I don't know. We all sit here bashing kiddy hosts all day long, but then when one lies to the nation and takes a TV spot away from somebody who truly deserves it, some people seem to think it's alright to just leave him alone and not give him grief for his lies? BTW, I'm not saying I was the one who truly deserved it. I didn't. But I'm sure there were some applicants who did deserve it. This is a guy who came to these forums to ask how he could make his turnover look larger for the media. Right at the same time I was getting phone calls from Endemol asking what my turnover was. I don't see the difference between a normal kiddy host and Liam, other than Liam has done the kiddy host dance in a much bigger scale. I don't see how anybody can say "just leave him alone", when he has lied to millions, when those same people are cursing at the thought of a kid who deceives and runs down our industry in front of just a few hundred. It doesn't make sense to me.

he's been outed all over the net since he went into the house buddy, from the lying statistics of his small reseller hosting company that hosts 60 sites etc, to stuffing glow sticks up his butt to impress people... he'd better hope he wins BB, because his hosting company's aspirations are now situated next to the northern tip of that glow stick OWM

Hm I must've been looking at a cached version of the whois I guess. Oh well.

I read that 44% of the public that voted, voted to evict Liam. I bet Labour would be pleased if they could get that kind of vote. ps. OWM - your prayers were indeed answered

Owww....LIAM YOU LUCKY BASTARD!

I think his going to get complately mega rich from this.

Your Crazy But I'm weird & paranoid - - OWM & Liam - Na, don't see that ever happening

No I'm not in the web hosting business, but I do own a very successful internet based mail order company (with a turnover considerably higher than £200k) so I rely on a hosting company to provide me with a reliable dedicated server, plus I have been working with the Internet in various ways since 1996, so I have a pretty good knowledge about the WWW, but you are right, it seems I don't see it from your side. I don't think you can have much confidence in your business if you believe the actions of a 19 year old kid can give it a bad name. People like me will still need web hosting regardless of the actions of Big Brother contestants. Liam came over as a nice enough young guy on that TV show, the other housemates clearly liked him and I wish him well in his career, as I would any other young entrepreneur in his line of work (obviously not if they were an arms dealer). Peace, Chris.

I don't recall saying that this is the most important thing? Last time I checked, this was a forum for discussing things.. On the rest of these forums I discuss webhosting, is it so wrong for me to come here and talk about something else? Am I bound to discuss what you deem as important? Am I not allowed to discuss something I like discussing perhaps? The comments are justified. For example, look at yourself. You come here, to criticise those, that are criticising a 19yr old liar. I think it's pretty safe to assume you have indeed joined the club If we're bad for bashing this kid, you're just as bad for bashing us for bashing this kid.

I might have thought that Channel 4 or the people that look into the potential housemates would verify any claims that have been provided to them by the candidates. I guess we will just have to see what happens. Best of luck to all housemates, but I'm not entirely sure that the boxer guy with the striped suit was too pleased when John revealed he had been told to lie to them all.

...2million customers now, this is embarrassing Theres nothing they can do about it now, even though its obvious it wasn't the show that inflated the figures based on all these passed posts he made. Who wouldn't stretch the truth to get on these types of shows, but Liam obviously lives his lies.

Check this: http://www.webhosting.info/webhosts/...ains/OXYUK.NET 100 odd domains hosted hmm.. interesting..

I guess Liam, the 'house guests' and those that put him there, are prob. 'not the sharpest tools in the box'. BB should do a Mushroom Growing compititionwith all that BS......

I'm only a phone line away. If you want to hear it in person, head on down to NYC or Paul's later this month. I'll be in the Big Apple for two nights and then with Paul for a week at the end of Jan/start of Feb.

lmao ...superb...the news will get a hold of this for sure and tear him to shreads. owm

About 40 seconds into this video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZ7sIHUY0QE Katie Hopkins talks about Liam. She says "he could not make a relationship with a pet gerbil" For those that don't know, Katie Hopkins was on The Apprentice UK Series 3 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katie_Hopkins I personally do not like Liam's lopsided "hairstyle" but my 15 year old daughter LOVES it and thinks he's cute *shudder*

why should he have to prove he has it though? who cares if he isnt or is?

Credit Kane Andrews of n3k4.com for this contribution.

That would be great television...

Must have been on auto-renew, chances of it being renewed by one of his 12 staff?

Ditto.

Based on previous threads, he is likely outsourcing support. http://www.mediadaily.co.uk/2008/01/...ernet-pioneer/ -- pretty funny for those who haven't seen it yet.

lol... well it's hardly something to put on the CV mate.... caught masterbating live on television, watched by millions and then booted out in the 2nd week after getting 44% of the eviction votes. That's not a great selling point IMHO He's such a laughing stock....no pr company would risk their business being associated with him. Too many skeletons and lies festering there. owm

Liam is online and has been busted for "bigging" himself under the name of "Johnson5". Last 10 pages of this thread at DigitalSpy are the funniest/saddest so far: http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/forums/s...d.php?t=722539

Not all of us, just some of the more active participants in this thread.

That's a rather broad net you've cast. It's really not worthy of a response, but it's worth calling out. One of the reasons the multitudes of kids who engage in less-than-ethical and potentially fraudulent business practices are only marginally capable of negatively impacting the industry is because the majority of the industry takes a strong and public stand against them. Liam made bad choices, and he made them in such a way that they would become very public. He did so consciously and of his own volition. There should be little surprise that he's received an equal and opposite reaction. Newton's Third Law of Motion applies to social force as well as physical force, I've found With all due respect, your actions are contrary to your words. You appear to have a great deal of interest in this subject - there's nothing wrong with this, but let's call it what it is!

lol...wouldn't it be a hoot if Jade Goody & her mum came back into the house...anyone's worst nightmare I'd be over the wall in an instant. owm

Agreed. Leave it and if you feel the urge, repost when he's out - which hopefully won't be for a few weeks. He's in the house now and is/was a WHT member so we should be hoping he wins.

You probably didn't real the whole thread but this was established long ago.

young entrepeneur... they better call him young pretender! I'd love to see how this ends

That Yorkshire accent is about as mild as the tobasco sauce shots that we did at HostingCon! Fancy going down t'pub for t'pint of bitter? I can joke though, I'm from Scarborough and a Yorkshire family originally

Just where did a 'Liverpodian' get the idea for that hair from ? May be a true Liverpool star - our Cilla of the 60's - - what do you think ?

I hate Katie Hopkins. To her you can't be an entrepreneur unless you: - Are from London - Speak like the Queen - Dress in a suit every day She looks like a gerbil so I don't know why she is slagging him. I think his hairdo reminds me of Tom DeLonge. The most annoying thing about Liam is the fame he is going to get once he leaves the house for something he hasn't really done. Look at the money people like Jade Goodie are paid to go to parties and events.

I read earlier his site has 2,000,000 websites hosted, and 12 people working for it. That can't be good support, can it?

It's because he is in a position to discredit our industry, and doing a good job of it

What's even more sad is you've all spent days chatting about it.

I wonder what he'll think when he reads this thread...

Double ditto ! and 'Thank You' to OWM for starting this thread.

I thought I saw 'Liam' offering support services here on WHT, about $2 a ticket, but I honestly cant remember 'where', maybe in the offers-other hosing related ? maybe someone here 'tried him' ? and from the link you posted I found this from one of his 'followers' "i actually know this person and he’s a really nice guy. and yes he may have exagurated but it doesnt meen he is lying… " So I gues I'm not lying when I say I'm 25 years old - -

They'll probably spin it somehow to make money off of him. From the looks of it he has sturred quite the buzz.

lol...its to much!

Why does your Net Nanny software on this web site censor the word 'b*tches', yet allows the word 'wank'? I can wank to my hearts content without any asterisks!

Does anybody here believe that the film industry does not release seperate editions of a film for diff. countries/market places. US versions and UK version of a film are diff. to suit the markets they serve. Maybe at 50 plus I know that, but at 35 totnes is just too young. Glad your mail order business is succesful, any hints on what you sell ? I need some bigger boots - - - just testing can you say b1tch here ?

http://billing.oxyuk.com/ Does ClientExec even scale to this many users within the database? Hosting business at 8? I'm surprised Big Brother did not see through these obvious lies. Best of luck for success on the show and no hard feelings, but all of the details regarding this "business" appear to be fabricated.

He has another account which is active. http://www.webhostingtalk.com/member.php?u=135105

the funny ironic thing is.... After the show finishes, regardless of whether he wins, comes second or gets voted off 1st week, Liam if he plays his cards right and gets a decent agent, will actually have the potential to make more money than the lies he says he's made, even moreso if the show's producers find out and kick him out or the press make a numpty out of him because that would just be putting his face more in the public image and along with the millions of viewers he's exposed to that would just add to the finished selling product. Best example...Jade Goody, she never one Big Brother and the entire country hated her..but look at her now..okay she's dropped out of the public arena...but she's made £4 million with her own TV Talk show, books and keep fit videos so does she care? Big Brother monopolised so much on the irritation factor of Jade that they brought her and her much back onto another series of Big Brother just to attract more viewers who couldn't stand her in the first place, nevertheless, tv viewing figures don't care and they went through the roof when she and her mum came into the house. OK so the guy's told a fantastic amount of BS lies to get on, but with that kind of earning potential if he plays his cards right and has a decent end game....at 19 years old, a lot of kids would sell their soul to earn what Jade Goody did from that naffly irritating program. People tend to remember the rogues who get voted off big brother better than the people who actually win the thing. owm

lmfao...straight off Big Brother... "19:57 Liam and John talk about how big Liam's business is. John points out that it must be quite big to employ 12 staff, and Liam says he "gets a lot of calls". He also admits, though, that 8 of those 12 staff are part-time. (Yeah, I know, riveting stuff.) John thinks Liam is just being modest, but I'm not so sure." only another 3 staff to go part time and it'll leave his mum...ooops secretary owm

When I first met Jamie face to face, I spent the next few hours politely "nodding" at everything he had to say, as I had no !*$#@ clue what he was saying!! Vito

He's not from Liverpool He's from Widnes in Cheshire. Anyone see the interview with the women from the apprentice? She completely ripped in to him saying he's not an entrepreneur. He's not liked, etc.

I would possibly pay to ensure he wasn't at one of my parties. Although, the lady is right in the regard that to stay in BB you just have to entertain people, you don't need to necessarily display your specific talent (disregarding tasks etc.)

OWM I'm sure he ment he 'originated' Aussie land - - ie. it did not exist until he created it , 'cos not even Liamer would admit to any Aussie Origines, would he ?

Where is that post on n3k4.com? Cant find it?

What's so sad about discussing something?

He will be happy to have some real fame and probably more fortune I guess?

Let us know how Church was.

Not exactly, I was thinking what a pathetic purrrrv.

dunno about spin...maybe a quick white knuckle shuffle owm

great find!!!

There is quite a bit more involved than 'kid told a few porky pies to get himself on Big Brother!' go spend a few hours reading the countless horror stories of children starting up we hosting companies only to get suspended from school and being grounded by their parents and having no computer access leaving the hosting customers high and dry, or even better kiddie host sets up shop takes cheap yearly payments from a few hundred customers and decides he would rather focus his time on Halo 3 and closes up shop leaving customers sites down and sometimes no control over a domain which they own as it is under said kiddie hosts name. Personally I could care less what the kid did on TV and the whole masturbation scene was just icing on the cake of what is really the big picture and that is presenting yourself as being a large stable company with several employees supporting your customers and not just some kid who does it after school hours. I do understand where you are coming from but I think you just do not get the big picture, as I mentioned before spend some time reading the hosting forum and see the countless horror stories posted about similar situations which ends up unfortunately looking bad for all of us.

In what way has Liam behaved fraudulently? I shouldn't have thought lying to the Big Brother producers to get on their show is actually fraud. Has he actually committed fraud, or just exaggerated the success of his business? If he has a turnover of £200,000 from a web host reselling business at just 19, then that's quite impressive in its own right, as one would imagine the profit margins would be quite high on this kind of biz, so I'm not sure why he needed to tell obviously provable lies in the first place. Of course turnover tells almost nothing about a business, though generally the higher the turnover, the higher the profits will be, though £200k is generally quite small these days and I agree certainly not enough to employ 12 people. I said I don't have a particular interest in this subject, as someone earlier implied that I was somehow associated with Liam, my interest is on that I found this forum and rather unexpectedly found myself in your debate. Maybe I've got the wrong end of the stick, but I was under the impression he does have a legitimate business that he has somewhat exaggerated the success of in order to get on Big Brother, in which case, I find that more a sign of our times; however, other posters have implied he has committed criminal fraud, which if the case, then that's an entirely different matter and no doubt he'll be before the courts in due course. Reselling web space is not actually a crime, and quite a lot of businesses do this, and have done for some time. All I was trying to say that I was surprised there was so much ill-feeling towards him and that I didn't think you could really judge someone or write them off at the age of 19. I guess I'll never get why he's annoyed you so much, I suppose it must be a web host thing!

hmm...maybe he meant 100,000 domains... oxyuktechnologies.com IP Addresses: 209.157.71.50 IP Country: United States Reverse IP Lookup: IP hosts 129,679 domains Hosting Company Name: ICANN Registrar: TUCOWS INC. Creation Date: Jun 22 2006 Expiry Date: Jun 22 2008 http://whois.webhosting.info/oxyuktechnologies.com owm

Absolutely hilarious. He has the nerve to ask how to lie about your turnover, when you basically have none, but "have everything else in place making your company look 'top dollar'". Check the data of that post (10-25-2007). I bet that was the show's producers asking questions of turnover as per his application for the show. Here's a tip, if they ask 'what is your turnover?' tell them the damn truth, instead of looking for a PR spin/Lies type response. I hope this kid gets burned and is publically shamed for lying to the show's producers about his so called success. I hope they kick him off the show and he's shown for the liar he is. I hope it's painful and very public. He stole someone else's spot on that show, with lies and deceit. No mercy for liars and cheats.

The Sun's "BB:CH rolling new" page . It features comments on what is / was happening in the house. One comment that I read was: Good luck to him if that sort of thing works for him.

I got dibs on his biz... haha Good Luck Liam

Matt's right though. My accent is very mild for a Yorkshireman. Got t'pot for t brew, Matt? Aye, ya say? Butty aswell? Eeh by gum tis grand out der. We have our own language. First person outside the UK to understand all of the phrases in this post wins a prize... or a brayin' depending on the mood I'm in.

I stand corrected, but I think his offices or reg. office is Liverpool

Wow, she's having a right go at Liam in that video

hmm... We better tread carefully....Aussie Bob'll send them crazy Abbo's over We gave them sheep and cricket...however on a fair note they did give us Kylie & Castlemaine xxxx stubbies. I always wondered why it was called Castlemaine xxxx....most likely cause they can't spell beer. owm

Hahaha lmfao

It's all just lame gossip, who cares what the kid does in his free time. He's a kid and one that obviously has enough issues of his own not to have the entire internet chatting about him. It's just very childish.

They'll probably keep Liam on there to keep their ratings higher.

Jamie started this thread, not OWM.

you're correct as usual Brian. -------------------- you can usually tell by his use of "I am very affordable" that the guy's a single person operation. also.... http://support.oxyuk.com/ is almost surely a nulled copy of livesupport Help Desk Software By Kayako eSupport v3.00.32 <------------version widely available on warez boards. owm

Like the "doing business since 8 years old"-bit?

WOW, indeed a 99 paged thread about this youngster And his website gained in Alexa ranking like crazy as well. Finally his homestead template is paying off.

Because it is offensive? Paul

Yes we know I think you have completely missed the point.. That said, one of the main points of BB is to cause such debates and discussions. They do it themselves on BBLB and BBBM. I don't see why you feel it is bad of us to debate and discuss someone on BB. We can bash him and we can praise him. But surely you cannot expect to go onto BB and think no gossip is going to happen. It's the whole point of it!